Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". There were no conditions. This poor man cried out, and the LORD heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. When the Gibeonites heard that the other nations were going to attack them, they sent a message to Joshua and the people, Help! See? But Abishai the son of Zeruiah came to his aid, and struck the Philistine and killed him. The two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul ( v.8 ) And these men, they need to be buried. However, the Gibeonites did. It cut us off from God. I want you to understand where Barry was coming from in writing the note. By this time, having fought all his life since he was a teenagerup against Goliath when he was eighteen or soand here he was approaching 70 years old, and he was tired. Perhaps trickery will be better than war for us.". All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. Finally, after six or seven months, the rains came in their natural cycle. When did Saul kill these Gibeonites? Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. The angel of the LORD encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them. Then they replied, It was Saul who planned to destroy us, to keep us from having any place at all in Israel. I think he was very low. The Gibeonites were not Israelites, but the remnant of the Amorites, which Saul pursued from within Israel. Saul and the Pharisees persecuted and killed the Christians, The sons of King Saul were killed as a result of this attempted genocide, The non-Christian inhabitants of Jerusalem were destroyed in AD70 Gods judgment on them for murdering his son and doubtless, the early Christians. This cultural trait makes it difficult for many people to identify with Jesus Christ. WebThese lists are not concerned with the Gibeonites at Gibeon, but with the Benjaminite group which came to settle at Gibeon in the course of time. He just let them walk all over him. We have an easier time identifying with the flawed, but heroic, Lancelot from the legends of King Arthur, because he is a lot more like ushe commits sin; he has faults. Something is wrong, David. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. If we would go back to Leviticus 26, we will see that David should have known that famine was no small thing in God's arsenal. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." Should we make a covenant with them? He had to sit there and judge people with all the little things they constantly brought up to him that seemed to need his decision on. So, he kept his own covenant, but he did not go any further to figure out from God's law to know what should be done in this situation. WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. Let his blood be on us and on our children., Perhaps the Gibeonites are a type of the inclusion of the gentiles Romans 9:22-24. And your strength shall be spent in vain; for your land shall not yield its produce, nor shall the trees of the land yield their fruit. Only when the Gibeonites were under siege from a common enemy and were calling in the marker on their mutual aid treaty did the Israelites turn to God for counsel and advice. My reading between the lines concludes that King David was at a spiritual low point at this time. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. He did not do anything to directly intervene. 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. They did not ask, "God, what should we do to these people, the Gibeonites? We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. WebThis points to their employment in the sanctuary; and possibly may shed some light on the massacre of the Gibeonites by Saul (2 Samuel 21:1). * 1 Samuel 18:12 KJV And Saul was afraid of David, because the LORD was with him, and was departed from Saul. * 1 Samuel 18:15 KJV Wherefore when S The choice by Adam and Eve in the garden was a sin, and they paid for it through death. He did not do a thing that a king or judge should do. They are still there. You see, famine on the scale like thisthree yearsis a sign from God that things were not copacetic in the land. The rains did not come after the Days of Unleavened Bread when these seven men were executed. Things were going wrong. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? Saul killed a lot of people. And he gathered an army and attacked the Amalekites, and delivered Israel from the hands of those who plundered them. The Jewish Encyclopedia asserts that one group of rabbis felt that Saul's punishment at God's hands is a sign of his weak moral character whose only virtue was being tall and handsome. The Israelites had been dealing with the Gibeonites, who were Hivitesand as it says here, they were a part of the Amorite peoplesince the first days in the land under Joshua. HERALDS OF HOLOCAUST They got a couple of their men, maybe elders, and got them to appear like they came along distance. the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the So you shall not pollute the land where you are [this is very important]; for blood defiles the land, and no atonement can be made for the land, for the blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it. Even though the avenger of blood could kill the person if he caught him before he arrived at the city of refugewhat this verse is saying, here, is that if the nation follows through, and enlarges the lands by obeying God, He will designate more cities of refuge so that they are closer. How do other hominoids (e.g homo erectus, homo neanderthalensis, etc.) WebMany centuries later (the period from the exodus of Israel to the reign of Saul is generally considered to be about 400 years), Saul came to the throne in Israel. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. Why so? Were they participants in killing the Gibeonites? We know that you said not to make a covenant with the people the land. Is that what happened?" How did the spirit of God move upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2? After that, God heeded the prayer of the land. Most people living in modern, Western culture better identify with flawed heroes, rather than perfect heroes. Or as the Gibeonites said Saul consumed them and tried to destroy them a people Israel had entered into a covenant with 400 years earlier. If, in the event the Israelis ever came their way, they would be servants to the people of Israel. It did not come the next week, or the next month, or the month after that, all through the summer and into the fall holy days. Another possibility is that when Saul slew many of the priests at Nob he also executed many Gibeonites (1 Samuel 22:19). If He said that you are out of here, you are out of here. Leviticus 26:18-20 And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. WebA famine lasting three years hit Israel during the earlier half of David 's reign at Jerusalem. ", So David went out and said, "There are some things that have needed to be done. Then there are things of degeneracy. If you look at a map in the back of your Bible which has something to do with the conquest of Israel, you will see that Gilgal is right over the Jordan River, just on the eastern side of the land. But it appears at least 40, maybe 50 years in the past. There was no negotiation; there was no calling them on anything. Israel had to live with those consequences for years to come. The Israelite version was a whole lot less absolute. So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. Saul's bones are still in Jabesh-Gilead. It is very clear, and very simplejust two little verses. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." Summary:2 Samuel Chapter 212 Samuel 21 Avenging the Gibeonites A. David avenges the Gibeonites. The people of the land stand for our spiritual enemiesour human nature, this world, and Satan the Devil. His anger at the In reading the Psalms, on the other hand, we get an idea of just how grateful he was for God's forgiveness and grace, because I believe he was aware of just what a rotten individual he really was. But Joshua had the final decision. We had before that the episode with Amnon and Tamar. These are the two hints. Good question. This angered God and was only amended years later after sacrificing seven of Sauls sons to the Gibeonites by hanging them before Jehovah at Sauls hometown, Gibeah. After that, Gibeonites were no longer mentioned though there are some writers who believed that they were among the Nethinim, the ones selected to serve the temple. David asked the Gibeonites what punishment would satisfy them and atone for (cover) Sauls sin of murder. It takes into consideration things like accidental death, and premeditation. WebThe biblical writer confirms this charge by stating that Saul tried to annihilate [ nkah, to inflict a dead blow] them (2 Sam. This was obviously later in his life and reign. About two years ago, Barry Watson, our lone member in Namibia, wrote me an email message in which this incident was at the heart of it. Scripture has said this explicitly. Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. He understood it. We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. Let's see what's in our bag of tricks. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Now that we have established that there was a horrible massacre at some point in the past, remember there was sin, and there was a crime committed. However, we have a great deal of trouble identifying with or understanding pure, innocent and perfect Galahad. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. When asked about the time of the end; when questioned about the signs that would precede His Second Coming, our blessed Lord instinctively cautioned: "Take heed that no man deceive you." How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? But that conclusion is a bit too sanguine once you begin to look into that which is not said, or what is said elsewhere. Therefore, they arrive in the camp of Israel, and say, "Where's your leader? They did not inquire. He had to plead to God for clearing and forgiveness, for cleaning up, because he knew it was not in himself to do that. There is demotion. So they performed all that the king commanded. The famine was a punishment for Sauls violation of the covenant, made with the Gibeonites back during the days of Joshua. But the massacre of the Gibeonites probably occurred after that. This cultural thing about wanting our heroes flawed is so deeply ingrained in us that we cannot imagine anyone going through life without sin. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a Think of it as if it were today. He was setting us an example of what we should be doing in a spiritual sense. For unknown reasons, Joshua and the elders of Israel quickly bit on this proposal. That is that he could have gone along with the Gibeonite's demands in order to get rid of seven possible contenders for his throne. WebSaul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. ESV - However, if they did not participate, they are not going to be given a black mark by God for something that they did not do. They wanted blood by putting to death seven male descendants to die for the crimes of that house against the Gibeonites. So let seven of Sauls sons or grandsons be handed over to us, and we will execute them before the Lord at Gibeon, on the mountain of the Lord.. WebThe consequences of Israels covenant with the Gibeonites were not short-term. I will do it." King Saul exhibited that hubris, that overweening pride in his own decisions and that unfounded confidence in his own good judgment that he brought certain and lasting disaster upon his own dynasty. So, he spared Agag, and he spared a lot of the good stuff. We want them to reflect what a real person would do in extreme or extraordinary circumstances. Saul, after having disqualified himself from being king, sought to ingratiate himself with God by killing Canaanites, including an unrecorded massacre of Gibeonites. He has mercy, and holds the curses to just a few generations, but He allows the results of doing righteousness to last forever. This traditional doctrine, as heard in a Catholic or Protestant church, would say that this sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden rests upon us still. There is a very important difference. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. Leviticus 26:3-4 If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them, then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. He is able to judge justly. 2. A brief, but important, reference to the Gibeonites can also be found in 2 Samuel 21:1-14. Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. It does not seem to me that during this time of the three years of famine David was emulating the attitude that he wrote about in Psalm 34. Completely ignoring God's explicit command to spare the Gibeonites, Saul decreed it was time to remove them completely by exterminating them. Now, we move forward, not very long in time, to Joshua 9. That is how we overcome the dearth of the truth and the dearth of righteousness in our day. There were big problems, and one of them was the consequences and effects of Saul and his bloodthirsty house. If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating delusion. Jerusalem is almost directly west a few miles, but it is quite high from the Jordan to the Jerusalem. But it does not say so here in so many words. After 7-10 years of war, David has solidified his empire Mar 2, 2022. WebTheir apostasy began with the Hivites from Gibeon, and in time, the leaven slowly spread. WebWhen God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. They were probably innocent of this particular crime. This is what we have to learnunderstanding the distinction between guilt for sin, and the lingering effects of sin. But so did David. What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. They agree to the death of seven of Saul's descendants. And when Saul saw any strong man or any valiant man, he took him for himself. It would take three or four generations for perversion to be kicked out of a society. This is very, very important for this vignette in King David's life. The "Man of Steel" is just too perfect, too smart, and too invincible. WebThe LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. Probably what happened was that they put them on the top of the hill at Gibeah, so that God in the Tabernacle could "see" the execution being done. Samuel turns away; Saul grabs at him and only catches his robe, and tears it. The verb is used in this sense with respect to Joshua's action toward the Gibeonites in Joshua 9:27, where cultic servitude is involved ("for the altar of the Lord"). And Samuel says, "See? It is in II Samuel 21. The Gibeonites take the young men and essentially lynch them, leaving the bodies of Sauls sons and grandsons to rot, exposed and humiliated in the presence of God at a local shrine. He did this "in his zeal for. He gives them exactly what they want, and look at what happens. They had remembered it for 40 or 50 years. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. Time to retire!" Why was David so loyal to Saul after everything Saul had done to him? THE STORY OF JOSEPH - And the LORD answered, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, because he killed the Gibeonites." All I do know is that they do hold a solid place in world history and one of their offshoots or branches were the Gibeonites. I don't know a great deal about this particular segment of those biblical people called the Hittites. Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". I think that this was a test from God, and David failed spectacularly, except in keeping his promise to Jonathan. WebThe Gibeonite Deception - Now when all the kings west of the Jordan heard about these thingsthe kings in the hill country, in the western foothills, and along the entire coast of the Mediterranean Sea as far as Lebanon (the kings of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites) they came together to wage war against Joshua and We see in this little vignette that innocent people die; grief lingers forever; idolatry is committed; and the curse of famine continues; another harvest fails; and the land remains defiled; everything stinks of death. That would be a town in Benjamin just north of Jerusalem. WebSaul slew the Gibeonites, not simply as the son of Kish, but as the king of Israel, and therefore involved all Israel with him in the violation of the national oath; and hence, until the evil should be put away by the execution of the immediate offender or his representatives, all Israel must suffer. Webdid mika hakkinen win a championship; cosmic casino no deposit bonus 2022; natwest financial calendar; south bay christmas events; when did saul slew the gibeonites. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. It is after Absalom's rebellion. WebWe will attack Gibeon, because they have made peace with Joshua and the Israelites." God is warning here that sin has consequences. They knew! 21:1-11 ). Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comments: It was a heathen practice to gibbet men with a view of appeasing the anger of the gods in seasons of famine, and the Gibeonites, who were a remnant of the Amorites, though brought to the knowledge of the true God, were not, it seems, free from this superstition. The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. This famine has been going on for three years, year after year. They have a discussion in the next few verses, and many Israelites want to go ahead and kill these Gibeonites for what they did. It would have been the answer. (4:10). The Israelites had taken an oath concerning them, but in his zeal for Israel and Judah, Saul had sought to kill them.) II Samuel 21:8-9 So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of the LORD? Whatever the case, it is very plain to me that he did not pay enough attention to this matter of the famine and drought, and the Gibeonites. fit into Creation? There was a covenant with those people that not only Joshua and the people honored, but also God Himself honored as well. This would be in the spring during or after the Days of Unleavened Bread. The breach of contract was serious enough that God sent the famine in response. II Samuel 21:14 So they performed all that the king commanded. Then Ishbi-Benob, who was one of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose bronze spear was three hundred shekels, who was bearing a new sword, thought he could kill David. They did not seek God in this matter. King David is mentioned by name as a hero of faith. Share In addition, after this was the rebellion of Sheba, in which there were all kinds of disruptions until Sheba was killed. Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. DECEPTION AND COST 'Whoever kills a person, the murderer shall be put to death on the testimony of witnesses [another layer that comes in]; but one witness is not sufficient testimony against a person for the death penalty. God was not in all his thoughts during this time. Now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites; the children of Israel had sworn protection to them, but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. September 01 2013 But, are these people telling the truth? Notice God declares that the bloodguilt was not just on Saul, but also his house. Let me ask God about this. As mentioned earlier, there was the rebellion of Absalom. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. II Samuel 21:7 But the king spared Mephibosheth the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, because of the LORD's oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. Based on what he knew, and what was available in God's law, David should have been much more judicious. It was not just Saul, but other members of his family. Also David seems to have only spared Mephibosheth only because he made an oath, and not for the fact that he was only five years old and did not participate in killing the Gibeonites? There were not very many of them left. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. There is no record in the Bible of Saul killing Gibeonites. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. Then, pray for all you are worth so that your relationship with God and Jesus Christ is strong when the famine hits. They were probably in middle age, 45-60. King David came at it from a position of weakness, not of one who knew God's law and could answer these people from spiritual strength. Saul and the heir to the throne, his son, Jonathan, were killed in a battle with the Philistines, and by popular acclamation, David became the King of Israel. The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. If we would go through Luke 21:7-12, we would see that Jesus gave His disciples indications of what would happen if the time of the end began. Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. ", God answered immediately, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house. Two years is a long time. King David was perhaps the only converted person in the entire nationmaybe besides the high priest of the time, but we do not know. WebThe designation Nethinim is derived from the Hebrew verb natan ("to give over"), which can mean devoting someone to cultic service. Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. We would like to make a covenant with you.". They were the five sons of Merab, Saul's daughter. The last time Saul did swear not to kill David, Saul swore "by YHWH" not to kill david he broke it many times over since. David did not make any counter demands. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. Was John the Baptist conceived via an immaculate conception? Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death [he cannot buy his way out]. There should have been payment for it. It seems that modern Westerners want their heroes flawed. 3:6: "for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life"? The midrash states that when Saul learned of this, he was angry with his daughter and demanded of her: Why did you deceive me and let my enemy escape? We are getting toward the end of King David's life. As we get to about verse 32 in Hebrews 11, Paul says that he does not have time to get to all the other heroes of faith that the Bible gives us. And if He sinned, then He could not be our Savior. We can't withstand them. Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! It won't do anybody any good lying here dead. The words "thirty" and "forty" are not in the original Hebrew. Why were two of Saul's sons and five of Saul's grandsons killed for a crime they didn't commit? BATTLE AGAINST ENVY AND JEALOUSY If we think that we have it all figured out, I am sorry, we do not. God required atonement to be made. In their poverty and slavery the bowed but ever proud Gibeonites refused financial and other forms of compensation for the attempted genocide on their tribe. This shows that this portion of the story in II Samuel 21, hanging the bodies for six months or so, was an additional curse upon the land. Why was Satan so effective in influencing the actions of Eve? It does not matter. Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the LORD your God brings you into the land which you go to possess, and has cast out many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you, and when the LORD your God delivers them over to you, you shall conquer them and utterly destroy them. And the LORD answered, It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, In fact, it can be read as if David approached it as only a minor administrative matter. And it would have been done quickly and easily. It provides the cities of refuge where he could go serve a type of prison sentenceif it was an accidental murderuntil the high priest died. I will break the pride of your power; I will make your heavens like iron and your earth like bronze. To put it in a more modern time setting, a lot of people prefer Batman (the dark one), or Spiderman (the geek), to Superman for the very same reasons. It is tainted.". Why wasn't I told about this?" Perhaps he thought, "Hmm. My supposition is that he may have been still questioning God about the way his reign seemed to have crumbled, and all he had was enemies around him. That is not what it says here. Wherever he turned, he harassed them. Why is it just now that you are waking up to this? The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. By deluding himself that he could solve any problem; by presuming that the end justifies the means; by deliberately countermanding clear and specific orders from the Most High God; Saul not only failed to remove an evil people from the land, he also guaranteed the ultimate destruction of his own family. There is no biblical account of this escapade of Saul and his house against Gibeon. You had to go up quite a bit. He got a little weird, throwing spears at David (and Jonathan too, once). And how do I know this? I dont think it was a matter of God allowing the Gibeonites to put to death Sauls sons. He was distracted by the cares of this world, by the pulls of this, that, and the other thing, and so he gives in and compromises with the people of the land. 20, and still another between Saul and David in 1 Samuel 24. But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. Israel plagued by allowing the deception They knew all the things God had stipulated about what they were to do when Israel was going to come into the land. Deuteronomy 19:7-10 Therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall separate three cities for yourself.' So, it is very likely that these men were murdered both as retribution and as sacrifices to some pagan god to spite the God of the Bible, and therefore, Israel. Then we have the explanations of which we just went over. (Now the Gibeonites were not Israelites, but a remnant of the Amorites. Justice seems to have been served. Jonathan and Saul led the Report, August 29 2022 Finally, someone says to David, "Hey, did you know that Rizpah has been out on a rock for six months, sitting there day after day, protecting the corpses from birds and such, because the Gibeonites won't let her take them down and bury them? 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