It was completely unnecessary and she ruined what would have been a really enjoyable, mellow holiday.And she gave me lovely gifts..But what good are gifts if you treat the person your giving the gifts to like a dish rag?Kinda kills the enthusiasm doesnt it. A week later his mother said we had a appointment to talk to the unit director where my husband was at. Holidays with narcissists, however, can take on a whole new significance. Talk about it. That night I can't sleep because I'm so congested, plus I generally don't sleep well in hotels anyway. then came the ten year seniority gift of A paid trip for two to Rome. Holidays, however, provide the perfect cover to get a surprise hoover. I can't imagine how you made it through all that without kicking him in the shin. His pretty foreman was threatened by the last man that if she sent my husband back home there would be a wildcat that she would be credited as allowing. Most readers thought that the guy did nothing wrong by asking his wife to sit his uncles wedding out instead of showing up in a white dress that was sewn in a similar style as a wedding dress. Maternity leave is HARD WORK. READ THE RULES. I hope you feel better soon! You have to be prepared to never be the center of attention. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Vacation. Holiday lights are lovely and symbols of hope. In 1987 I had to enforce my stance he had to work things out and not just do as his seniority allowed. He is planning on taking one day off out of the three I am taking. Why couldn't he just be man enough to accept he was never going to be allowed his way and just do as he was told for every ones good. Not a bad idea tbh. My Graduation. What in the holy hell is his problem?? I half-heartedly commiserate. FUCK! Just be aware of narcissists gift-giving strategy as a way to get something in return. about his seniority rights. He was working the inventory on his job at 3 that afternoon when skilled trades could not get him to come to the window to issue a part that was not available in the virtual crib a tradesman climbed trough the issuing window. Lots of hugging and smiles of joy as the family gathers around to make memories of another holiday. To view profiles and participate in discussions please. He said go ahead start just don't stop he would rather be dead than continue to serve as a slave. It became more and more of a conflict. I called 911 to stop my husband from committing murder on a man he had rendered defenseless causing major head trauma, My friend was taken to a major trauma center. My husband is extremely spoiled at his job. The fucker was heavy and pedaling it around was harder than we expected. So no, I really don't have a friend to talk to. Jerk. WebHow my husband ruined our family trip Husband had two days off in a row which rarely happens, so we decided to take a min-vacation to the beach town two hours away and I have a whole saga about the last time we went to the local fair. Holidays sometimes can bring up a lot of tension . It is the time when happy couples renew their relationship, deepen their closeness and make beautiful memories. *I* ruined her birthday, *I* ruined Christmas Horrible things happen in this world and some people have had some horrible things happen to them, during holidays and otherwise. And if you can, set aside the Narcissistsmay know certain events are important to you because they hold tremendous sentimental value. By 2009 I was begging still that he could just try the times that were chosen for him by other people he had 34 years in seniority and there were many who had been badly hurt just trying to get him to try other ways. Thats not a vacation, thats maternity leave and thats a lot of work! Sooo, I had to make my own special events. At Christmas my husband had a shotgun pointed at him and forced into another holiday to work. You are a human being and deserve to have this happinesss. people with narcissistic personality traits. The narcissist may reach out with a call, email or text to wish you happy holidays. So, what does it mean when a vacation with your husband is the opposite of the above for you? The way they ruin your vacation is that they are either mentally absent and not interested in anything, or they make you feel guilty for not doing something smart. He bought me roses and actually bought me a gift (he didnt buy me one last year). I have no respect for men like him that treat their wives like this. If they are in the middle of juggling several people at once, they may attend a holiday event and conveniently forget to invite you or they may use an invitation as an excuse to be somewhere else. The second the first deputy tried to cuff him things went very wrong with two laying in front of our house knocked out and the other two pulled tass pistols to put him on his knees but he still got more hits in in groin and knees Screamed his Christmas new years wish that we die on the flight to Germany. That would put me off of wanting to take a vacation again anytime soon! The "Happy Holidays" season has just begun, make it the best you can. They often have a precise script of what they want their vacation to look like. Share kindness, support and compassion, not criticism. Why does it have to be about him and his wants and needs? I'm only 9 years in (3 married) and I take a mom cation every year minimum 3 days, preferably 5, with our trailer (that I can't drive/tow ) up in the mountains. You are not the only person who goes through this same feeling of let down in what the holidays and special events of the year should be like. Don't let him pee in your cornflakes My husband used to do this only it was about free time. 1. After all that, I say hey, I'm up, why don't I come with you, and we'll just grab a big coffee for me on the way out? The holidays can be a painful time of year for people who are in relationships with narcissists. Husband sighs and insists we HAVE TO check out RIGHT THEN, and when I suggest I call to the front desk and request a late check-out, he says we might as well just go home and cut our trip short by an entire day. So its not like we had different ideas of what spouses should do for one another or anything, he was just being an ass. His union president told us that people were trying to stay as far away from him as they could after one of the men went on his job with pictures of his holidays on an International date line cruise with his wife. She complains she hates Christmas because its too commercial, but then gets angry if I dont spend enough money on her gift. Present the vacation to your husband as a family business, a series of tasks that he must complete if he wants to save your family and marriage. The next morning his mother and I met him to ask what would it take to stop the pain he was causing and he said stop telling him he had no rights like his father kept saying he had no right to over needs, He said that his father. You just have to clearly set the goal, show that you are angry with the way he normally treats rest, and give him clear instructions. At the very least, move cautiously. Is he 10? MOMS ONLY. And of course our two boys (13m and 4y) are coughing and congested as well. Remember this, men dont change just because you want that to happen. He gets quite, then mumbles an apology and that I'm right, he has been cranky, then admits that he's cut way back on the amount of caffeine he consumes over the past few days which is making him irritable but he didn't want to tell me because he "knows how I feel about it" (I've been telling him that following his ADD medication with three cups of coffee and at least two large energy drinks every day is probably the reason he's always feeling shitty). But my life has always been hard. Workaholics really do feel like the world will come crashing down if they dont perform to the best of their ability. No judgments, no nastiness. !Oy Vey!! Protect your (actual) holiday. Their behavior is designed to please to appease and counter to control. As with canceling plans, its about the lack of care they seem to show for both your feelings and about what they told you they would do. That in itself is not necessarily a bad thing. Sorry that I dont need to stop and get a snack/take breaks and just power through my task and get it done faster, not my fault you dont do that! WebPlan holidays and vacations without him. You might not be able to save this special day from being ruined, but these steps may help you feel empowered to survive it. He keeps asking what I want to do next, I'm not about to answer that because every fucking suggestion I've made all morning has been met with attitude, so I tell him just to do what he wants, and he unloads on me about how I'm being so nasty towards him today and ruining the trip (FUCKING WHAT). What a tool, you can do this thing for the kids! Its called a vacation day not Saturday. She left the Dias in tears and gathered the kids and told the deacon following that he could come home in the new year. and I along with our friends since 1985 had kept him from any thing he had earned in time off or seniority rights I had not been any kind of a wife just cheated on him claiming it was because of his social none cooperation and me. The stress was telling on his mother between their oldest son not speaking and his father angry about him being so mean about working the holidays and his insult to me. I try to ignore his tantrums and mood swings but he is pushing it, I'm actually two minutes away from telling him to shove it. He lacks self awareness about that sort of stuff. It can feel as if no matter how your relationship has been going with them before the holidays even start, they can find a way to use this time of year to cause additional pain. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. I just stood there crying was that really what he thought of us for keeping him without a day off all those years. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Knowing narcissists try to ruin holidays and you cant control it can help you detach from how they behave. I stepped out of my bedroom right into my husbands chest In a brand new outfit I was going to wear to the dinner that evening, I knew i had to do something to go with the group and started telling my husband I had promised his father to go that evening. Ugh. Y'all. Just please pull his bid and talk to the other three that his father called the ex military seniority bullies. My husband was not even there but because he wanted what he had earned it put a major damper on the holidays. Please keep yours, at least in your heart. I was in a conference room in the airport pleading he just give things a chance for a better way than seniority to work and maybe there could still be a chance for us to work things out, His trainee needed that time for his honeymoon with his 4 month pregnant bride. I've also pretended to go to work and just snuck into our guest room and shut the door , Thats why you dont tell him your taking any time off and pretend like your going to work, the hole 9 yards. The more I tell these stories, the more horrified I am at my obliviousness through the years, and my blindness to what asshole moves these types of beliefs and behaviors are. That neuro surgeon did not listen to his father about the need to get my husband back on the job within the next few days, He put my husband on three months paid recovery leave, It was going to eliminate vacations other people had even though my husband had the seniority when he wanted the whole summer off and it took the city police to get him to not take it and keep everyone happy. Something was worked out till 2003. It can also indicate some of his character traits that are not quite compatible with yours. For whatever reason, he's flat-out refusing to consider letting me take a quick nap and then continuing on with our trip as planned and wants to torch the whole thing. I took the baby and spent an hour putting him to sleep since his routine has been disrupted while husband gets the older kid changed into his pajamas and the two of them collapse together in our bed, again at 9pm, because they're both SO EXHAUSTED. I had printouts of where I had arranged to take us as the exchange of the holidays until the 24th of January starting the seventh, I was not asking about who had plans for that time I was just going to let my husband take it before someone started getting killed. Six days latter I had an ambulance in front of my house two badly hurt men one with a book case pulled down on him breaking both legs above the knee. If your husband agrees and wants to be with you, great; if he doesnt want to, thats his business. But then of course the reality of having two small children in a hotel room sets in: "4yo, put your pants on. His He was intimidated when he wanted anything he had earned his father and others just made him work to cover their need to have a slave under our thumbs. Tonight he comes home, complains of a headache and storms off to bed. He bitches that he won't be able to walk tomorrow. Fuck everything. If you are being love-bombed, they may load you up with elaborate presents, but be warned that they are keeping track. I was just trying to see a young couple get a better start in their marriage than we had 28 years before because it now hung over our heads and had crushed any thing we could have had, I plead please don't send me to prison I would forget the society needs and they would have to fend for themselves from then on. I explicitly made the suggestion so that he could take a break because he says he's feeling so awful, I'm sick too and the only request I'd made was that I could grab some ice cream for my throat, and if he's feeling SO AWFUL AND EXHAUSTED after 10 straight hours of sleep and full health, how the fuck does he think I'm feeling seeing as how I'm coughing my guts out and only got 5 hours of broken sleep? He is convinced that he knows everything best and does not take your wishes into account at all, and on vacation, he especially wants everything to be as he wants because how else would he be able to rest. They saw him and his photos land in the Jitny isle with I don't want my nose rubbed in the fact I am a slave without any say in my life. No big deal. With every new problem his father just became that much more upset, Not because his oldest son was ill but because he was not working for the betterment of the lives in the community and he considered my husband of no use, since after he acquired the MRSA, He was no longer able to help any one in the community to get their goals met and make him look great. 1. Happy. His mother had cut him a check for the cost of the none refundable flight. So sorry that your enthusiasm has been punctured by your husband. In 2012 we took him a plate from the dinners just like we had tried when he was working, And in the conversation about his rights on the second of January 2012, He slammed a bed pan off his fathers face, and threw a stainless steel urine bottle at me yelling he was not going to be treated as the second class person we had made him any longer. When they see you happy, they may start an argument. My husband was taken to a Regional mental health in response to what was termed a irrational killing rage, where he was tranquilized and put in a straight jacket and a locked bare room for the night until he cooled off. Then he bitches because the boys aren't being calm. Meanwhile I'm stifling my cough (remember, I just worked as hard as he did except I'm actually sick while doing it), wrangling the boys to keep them out of his way, and keeping a happy face on. My husband ruins every single holiday. They are Then we have to turn back and the trip back is even worse. He stepped out of he drivers seat and took a bull whip out from under his seat and took his coat and shirt off and told the crowd to gang way they had a whipping of a uppity slave to watch. No matter how much you may love them, family and friends may be stressful, especially if they arrange your vacation; hotels can smell smoke, sex, and despair; and the urge to have a good time can occasionally be the death knell. Of course, there is always a solution. and intended to give it to him at Christmas so we could go to St Croix after the express was done for my two weeks to recharge from just trying to gain cooperation the last three years in any thing without a fight starting In 2008 h as his father and three others used shotguns ti force him though his work gate and he snatched one out of a friends hands and crushed his face in with the butt. I am so sorry. She would not let upShe said I guess its time to go and I said Yes it is. Take a moment to pause and think about the people in your circle - select a person or two who you would like to meet away from the interest group and ask for a get together over coffee. This is the ultimate goal of why narcissists ruin holidays. So, lets first see why your husband ruins every vacation. OK THEN. EVER.AGAIN. On the fifth I was on my knees pleading just wait for the next bid list in two weeks let the four that wanted that new department have it. What is not possible is to change him. The next vacation was to Athens in 1990 again we returned to his being told he was not taking time off as he wanted but would have to accept our decision of a winter vacation to start on January the 8th. Theyre so lost in their virtual world when theyre on their phone that they completely zone out. And it was also my first birthday as a mom. I'm congested, my throat hurts, and I'm hacking up chunks of green stuff. Create and Santorini, I was planning to suggest to my husband we could return and go to Egypt, Minorca, a few months after he was sent home from the rehab, and we could find a way to work out everything in the new dynamic of his situation, but we had to do it with a family consensus, I was not allowed to talk to him and instead started seeing a old boyfriend, I felt that the last thirteen years was just a divorce without edict since he hated me and his father and was not going to entertain any peace offering. 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I already feel like Scrooge! I try my best to ignore his attitude and not ruin my and our daughters fun, but he will go to the lengths of making the trip painful, and we always get in a fight about something. Reminder to commenters: No. Last night was my birthday. READ THE RULES. My house is small but warm, cozy and filled with memories of past holidays as well as the new memories I have started on my own. We head to breakfast. Next time he suggests something to do, ask how he would feel if you spent the entire time complaining about everything he wanted to do to make YOUR KIDS have fun and give them good memories. We went back and he's waiting in the suburban making us load our own luggage. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He said it was good I was ready to go He had not e. Have you looked into narcissist personality disorder?? You must live your life your way," Tessina says. Communication is key to a close relationship. Here are the 9 worst relationship mistakes and how to start fixing them today 1. Everyone described what happened next as seeing my husband flash across the isle and grab the man by the throat holding him off the floor with one hand as his pretty foreman went and begged him to put the man down he was going to get time off for his unsafe action. every time I or his father intimidated him or caused him to work time he should have off he was going to hurt us in 2006 about the trip to Scandinavia he kept his promise at the airport door telling me as i retched on the floor after he kicked me in my belly and hit his father so hard he landed ten feet away as I begged holding my stomach stop hitting us and just do as he pleased those holidays of 2006 his area manager would not allow any one off until things could be sorted out without seeing someone else hurt or jailed My husband did not give up his position even with the union pleading just try some other options why was having his choice so important and he made the whole department work redoing the inventory and virtual cribs One union official told us he had made what should have been the best department in his plant to work in so Toxic over getting his time off the way his high seniority could get it they could not keep any one working in it. It almost ruined our marriage honestly. He will immediately experience any ambivalence on your part as rejection. If so, tune in to Shrink4Men Radio on Monday, November 27, 2011 at 9pm EST when your host, Dr. Tara J. Palmatier of Shrink4Men, will explore the question, why does my wife, girlfriend or ex ruin every damn holiday? His 13 pound 4'4" tall cane came across the room without the grip tip on and shattered the left side of my old boyfriends skull dropping him to the floor and then my husband started to hammer fist him breaking most the bones above my boyfriends upper legs and causing major internal damage, When I tried stopping the rage I was swatted across the room. . As soon as the check is paid, he bolts to the stand to ask about prices, etc. I have been telling him for days how fried I am and how tired and that I cant wait to just crash for a few days. 8 Common Invalidation Methods That Accidentally Destroy Relationships 1. On vacation, you should also rest. They may also try to evoke happy memories in you that overcome your instincts not to interact with them. It might not be the same but it would start a way to peace and nobody else would end up going to the ER. They are trying to use the harmonious spirit to their advantage, hoping youll think its rude not to respond. So we try to salvage the last of the vacation. They would rather be the cause of your unhappiness and misery than not be the center of your attention at all. Most of my friends are associated with interest groups: Organic gardening, bird watching, ecology, etc. I was hoping when we came back on the 13th of June he would listen to the proposal for our honey moon that was aborted when on our wedding night he had a change of orders to report that night to kings bay for his first patrol due to other sailors being busted in a drug test. Baby, no, come back here, don't put your hand in the toilet! WebAnswer (1 of 9): Its time to get a divorce. His father and I along with the people we invited to the Christmas we had planed as the last without my husband being involved Went and had a dinner at Denny's, I felt bad that we had to do that because my husband for 31 years had fought us tooth and nail to not have a rewarmed meal or sandwich for his holiday meals, remained angry telling us we had stolen his life, and his mother was hoping he was out of rehab soon. The dollar shop has a lot of unique holidays items that could make your home look like holiday magic without the cost or trouble. OH GOD, the whining about crowds. This sounds like sour grapes to me. Her Graduation. Its totally not his fault of coursehe earns his vacation and should take itbut it was like dancing around a starving child while eating a sandwich. Every single special occasion *I* ruined. Your husband always needs a little more time to get used to any change, so this also applies to your vacation. Confessional #98132334. armed with a cease and desist order against the county from a federal court he planned against the wish's of the good old boys in the county to leave for the millennial celebrations in Germany after 19 years I had hoped for forgiving and understanding but when two deputies showed up to hold him without charges until Christmas morning and get him to work till then out of the jail. I was trying to hold his leg saying he could do as he wanted if he would just stop embarrassing us over his stinking time off. My mood tanked to near zero. I feel devastated. Sorry for going on so long but I am so upset at yet more ruined holidays that I stopped eating, again! Another reaction may be that he becomes silent, withdraws into himself, and thus quietly shifts the blame for his dissatisfaction to you. Thats when I snap at him to please stop giving me things to do on my vacation day and to let me just enjoy myself for a day. He always does or says something that ruins my birthday- it's like he really begrudges it! Even if it means that the plan is nonexistent. I ended up feeling like I could never sit down and relax around him and he apparently thought I just had it made and his life was sooo awful. On my solo vacation days, i kinda treat em like work days where I leave the house at regular time and spend the day at the zoo or napping at the library. I realized that people who are otherwise wonderful do this, and accidentally ruin their relationships with people who want to love them, but eventually stop subjecting themselves to that persons invalidating bullshit. His wife was a RN that drew the holiday ER duty and was not able to come either. over the Christmas 2012 his sister brother and mother arrived and took off with the meal I had ready to serve them and other guests saying my husband was going to get what he paid for that time. It's sitting on the dining room table. Anything that doesnt match their vision of an ideal vacation can be an excuse to throw a tantrum, make a scene, and make your life miserable. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, creepy pedo posing as an OT/speech therapist. We had no Idea that things could get worse in telling us what he thought of us. Depending on the type of narcissist,they thrive in chaos for many reasons. He went out and found his father waiting to take us to church Jumped on his hood yelling this is what I think of you and society as he urinated on his windshield then left for work with his mother crying. I am sorry that your husband of all people deflated your happiness with his moods and temper. I'm picturing a candle there burning brightly. It went a bit farther on New years eve when I was a little more than drunk with the family tension at an all time high, My husband refused to talk to us when we called, The security officer told us we did not want to know what he thought of us, since he should have been in Germany. Anytime we're doing something "fun" he has to suck the life right out of it. Understanding this enables one to have compassion for their ex-spouse. Compassion is important. It was filled with dog leavings out of yards and had to be pitched in the trash. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. John responded: 'I do have a couple [of sons], but they're both spoken for.' He was sending his finding that we had abused my husband for decades, especially when his father started yelling that he was always stubborn when it came to doing as his betters required. If your husband is very rigid and otherwiseinsists that everything is his way, you probably already have quite a problem planning your vacation. It turned out I was the smartest one of the bunch. The people around me weren't like I was. Passive-aggressive partners are generally codependent, and like codependents, suffer from shame and low self-esteem. Or we'll leave now and stop in a city on the way after I've dozed in the car and we can spend time together then. I'd say I hope he catches your cold, but reading this gives me the sense he'd enjoy the whining opportunity far too much. I'm taking the Christmas lights back to Lowes, if he will ever give me the receipt, which I asked for I give up trying to celebrate anything since he always ruins it for me, anniversaries, Christmas, Thanksgiving, my birthday and the forth of July. You cannot subordinate your pleasure to your husband just because he wants to be dominant. 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