He thought how a good climber like him could fall. Marcus' letter to his wife is the complete opposite of Ibsen's play. This page provides opportunities for students to contribute ideas, multi-media resources, written materials, analysis of literary critiques and even announcements that will amplify our responses to class readings, literary reviews and projects. if she was not narcissistic then she would not have needed to walk out. From this passage I can tell that Marcus is a very demanding man, and wants his wife to live up to the expectations being portrayed in this present day. Noras abandonment of her family was wrong, but there were many of things that provoke her to leave her family. He was disappointed that knowing the role society has for her in his family and how that reflects upon him, yet she chose to shame them. One of the similarities between Marcus's letter and Nora's husband is in the fact that both of them want their wives back. Nora was just as much as at fault as Helmer, he reacted poorly to her actions, and she reacted even worse, leaving completely. When she first met Mrs. Linde after not having seen her for years, Nora interrupted Mrs. Linde's story of being widowed to tell her about Torvald's promotion at the bank. Some of them do relate to economic background, but they are not fully about any economic importance.Nora being our protaganist, or antagonist, is being viewed through the marxist view as being "enslaved by Torvald in economic terms." Right away you can see he is the head of the household. WebThe letter, read alone on stage by Lady Macbeth, reiterates the Witches' prophecy of Act I. Helmers lenient way in controlling his wife was way less controlling where as Marcus was in complete under his rules.A women living in the early nineteen hundreds with Noras traits being rebellious and lacks content in what she has is definitely a narcissistic. & this is apparent why i firmly believe that in those times no one was truely happy and wives lived only to please there husbands and kids were just like a way to prove that you loved you husband, and the higher number the more you loved them. What is sensible to her may not be what is sensible to him. However, walking out on your family has a great affect on many individuals. (BedFord 1765) However, as much as he blames his wife for the destruction of their family reputation, he does take some responsibility; it should be noted that the word "some" might be an overstatement. Marcus focuses this letter to his specification and what his needs were and how she was to perform her duties as his wife. An argument that presents Nora as narcissistic is one of great interest, one which I had never considered before. She constantly used people around her to get what she wanted. When it comes to Torvald he was a little different, he wasnt that demanding with Nora in fact she sometimes seemed to be manipulating him. Who is the victim here? For example, describing tone can help clarify whether a statement or story is positive is negative. His tone in the letter is condescending and self-righteous. This is seen through friendship loses, divorce, and you can say adoptions, because a women or man is not happy with their life or not ready to commit to these things. As the letter implies, Ulrike had left home and children: the letter establishes conditions for her to return. The perspective of the self-searching humanist would be more relatable to current readers, since our present society now has greater value placed upon ambition and becoming all that you can be. According to Tuft, without seeing Nora as being a narcissistic character, she would have no other reason to leave her home and family the way she did. Her main focuses are how much money her husband gives her, how much money her husband will make, and keeping her "secret" private so she won't look bad in society. 4 0 obj I believe Tuft's purpose and reasoning on why Nora is a narcissist is a true statement that can be proven by Nora's actions and comparing them to Tuft's list of narcissistic personality traits. It is filled with many demands and some teetering on insults. Tufts purpose for arguing that Nora was seen as Narcissistic because she waited out of the life she currently was living and wanted to become her own person. Pardon me but for any normal women duties to self comes second to duties to her kids. Narcissism is characterized as someone who has a large sense of self-importance, preoccupied with fantasies of success, requires constant attention, indifferent to other peoples feelings, and takes advantage of others to get what they want. Looks like Ulrike might have the best of both worldsShe may continue being the lady of the house and continue to "sin greatly" if she does it it "sensibly" and keep up appearances. I feel that, at the beginning of the letter, Marcus does realize that it was because of his actions that Ulrike left. Like it or not that was a social arrangement of the day. That domestic situation apparently did not bring Ulrike total happinessotherwise, she would not have left. She also shows that she is a narcissist when she flaunts her money in front of Mrs.Linde. She is very preoccupied with her husbands success. @'uP!&Z`yvSXKQiCsTPWa{:}|J==[Sp But at the same time, I still feel that goes back to the message of humanism with a human working to aspiring to find herself. It's almost as if he is saying, "hey, I am doing my part, you agreed to do your part and you haven't. I don't think any character is narcissistic because at some point in the story every character admits to/ display obvious flaws. While she is merely doing it to "find herself," she is leaving all of her responsibilities, including her children, without guidance or completion. This is why the note he would hypothetically write to Nora would not be full of demands. It seems that Marcus blames everything that has gone wrong on his wife, where Torvald takes the blame for him and Noras separation a bit more. After reading Tuft's article, I completely agree with Nora as a Narcissist. Web>>>The tone of Marcus's letter to his wife is demanding, authoritative and domineering. That is where Marcus and Torvald differ. His letter is very similar to Helmer's words in that they were both "the man of the house" and made all the rules. His determination seemed to be winning success when, in 180, he died at his military headquarters, having just had Tuft was referring Nora as someone who seems to be the victim due to society but yet its not so when she made the choice to leave her family. I am sure about it. It would be humiliating to receive this letter. Not knowing the truth to this passage, Marcus would take his wife back under the condition that he would enslaved her as a wife. In the American Standard Version of the Holy Bible (http://ebible.org/bible/asv/) Adam told God "The womangave me (fruit) of the tree, and I did eat." There was no real similarity between Marcus and Torvald, the only thing I could say is that Marcus suggested to this wife if you need money she should ask her father, where Torvald would not allow Nora to accepted money from her father because Torvald was responsible for his wife financial needs. But now I doubt that Helmer could have wrote to his wife. But Marcus decided to blame his wife for his acting like what Eve did to Adam. In retrospect, Nora knew deep down for a while that she was not her own person, she was who her husband wanted her to be as a wife, and covered these feelings with treats and nice things until she finally was strong enough to come out about these concerns and realizes what is really important in life; herself. Web"A Nineteenth Century Husband's Letter to His Wife" details the many duties she would need to follow if she choose to return, including bathing the children every WebPublishers summary: Confraternities were the most common form of organized religious life in medieval and early modern Europe. Tuft says Nora is narcissistic, and I think that is something we can all agree with. Torvald penny-pinching ways forced Nora to borrow money for their vacation when he was sick, before the story begins, because the doctors urged Nora to. The art of perforating, or making a hole through any solid body. I dint think it at first, but after reading and looking deeper into the play I see how self-fish Nora is. She cares primarily about the good deeds she has done, which don't seem to be too many. Can you achieve perfect freedom on this earth? Nora, I feel, has the mind in which a woman would have today. Looking at the definition she provides for Narcissism it is easy to see these traits in Nora throughout the entire story not just when she decides to leave. My personal belongings will all be sent to you. The Marxist approach is very interesting. He practically owns everything including his wife, children and maids. When he says how Adam sinned after Eve had already sinned herself, he's practically saying to her that she is the reason for it all, for all the unhappiness, and the reason as to why he sinned. Anne-Marie job is to clean the house and be there for Nora's children because Nora is so wrapped into Torvald in hos money. I do not beleive that Nora purposely ment to be ego-centric, however, she was. The rest of the letter identifies rules and obligation the wife must follow, starting with laundry and ending with NEVER making visit in HER HUSBANDS ABSENCE. She leaves her children and her husband behind because she wanted to be free. You can not take care of others if you are not taking care of your own needs. He believes women need to live with a man in order to have necessities and a good reputation. Her husband was really a victim of the times.he did was expected of him.but now that Nora wanted change, he was given no choice in changing himself. It was easy to see Noras role as a pre-feminist role or as from a humanist perspective. Rather than her catering to his ever whim, he spoils her. Tuft feels that Nora is self absorbed because she leaves behind everything and thinks of herself first without thinking of any consequences on her departing. In those times things were very similar as to what was expected of a wife and her duties to her husband and children and I think that is what Nora and Marcuss Wife were struggling with. On the otherhand, Nora was much more in control than Torvald. He is verbally abusing her to the point until she is broken down and reduced to nothing. A difference that I see is that Helmer is willing to do anything to get Nora to come back but Marcus lays down all these rules if she wants to come back. A few months after his voyage, Columbus decided to write his trip patrons a letter. Overall, I really just thought of A Doll's house as a summary of everyday life, how things can go from everyday normal life to a crumbling mess. VK Uk"Goy=e2,F,h-R|>#g380B?fM59!r|HR3s3zZfg{)/70UdF.t}dEno"Xp`&/ The ending to the play speaks wonders to Noras narcissistic character. A Nineteenth-century Husband's letter to His Wife, seems like a version of the letter that was left for Nora by Helmer. In order for the play to remain a seminal piece of social commentary, Tuft argues that Nora should be seen as a narcissist thus adding more complexity to her character and to the dynamics of human relationships. This is from Letter from a Husband to his Wife Arts & WebThe Project Gutenberg EBook of The Principles of Psychology, Volume 1 (of 2), by William James This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere in the United States and most other par Another one is that Helmer tries make a deal with Nora that she can live in a house with her family like a sister. In addition to that, although too late Helmer does admit that it was wrong for him to treat her the way he did after reading the letter. She tends to make every situation about herself. This is where I disagree because Nora may have been superficially happy buying her children items, as well as for herslef and Torvald, but that was not how she exercized her personal freedom. I agree that this letter seems like it could have been written by Torvald. Relationship Support Letters Examples Canadavisa com July 8th, 2010 - Having some family and friends provide letters to help prove our common law relationship My mother and his mother and at least two friends from each of us Do you think thisKindly say, the Affidavit Of Support Sample Letter is universally compatible with any devices to The women in a A Doll house have no true identity because they are unequal to the males. In fact, most of the hurtful words came from Noras mouth. Yet I read, and read again your charming letters, and they serve me, in some faint degree as a substitute for the company and conversation of the writer. [3] His longing for her during their war-enforced separation led him to write that he wanted to see her think. The Second time his wife warned him, he laughed at her finding her warning to be a funny joke. The husband is making statement such as if she comes back it will be the "correct" thing to do. WebThe husband should give his wife his entire confidence and share the income, expected income with her so that a desired sum of money is given to the wife at a regular and She disappears for the majority of the middle of the book, bailing because she Torvald, however, first seems like a strong character, but easily becomes manipulated by his wife. children. Whether it be a wife trying to hide her credit card debt from her husband, to a mother leaving her family to reinvent herself. helmer also gets angry while stating he wants her to stay and she needs to rethink her decision. She sees herself as the center of the universe, and everyone should cater to her every whim. Nora committed to be a wife, a mother, and a friend to all the important people in her life and when she found that she failed she gave up on herself. For Krogstad he needs his money not for himself and for his family and their stake and compares himself to his past love decision to stay in a hapless marriage because of money. A ship, namely a merchantman, returning to Archangel and then England will deliver the letter. The truthfulness of that statement is debatable however instead of stating it once if at all, Nora repeats it as if her decisions had the power of God to determine life and death. He does take some responsibility for how he acted, but not much. Both families are well off and well known. Well, actually, maybe during his time, this was the concept many men had of marriage. From the span of Christmas Eve to the dawn of the day after Christmas, you see a woman grow fed up with the world around her and walk out on her entire family. She can only choose between two things. this is very similar to Helmer in A Dolls House. When Dr. Rank informs Nora of his expectation to die and the worst of his suffering to begin, she first berates him for being "completely unreasonable" (1533 Norton Anthology) and then goes as far as putting her hands over her ears to ignoring him. His tone is very indifferent in the letter; he tells her "Don't travel unprepared; if you need money, ask your father." So without knowing further details about the case I reserve my further judgment. Instead, words that describe tone focus on how the person's disposition or mood is conveyed. How I wish that I had nothing to do with you either. Helmer, while being a rather selfish man, was not one to demand so many things from Nora. Carol Tuft tries to convey that there is more than on interpretation of Nora than the feminist type originally viewed by the Norwegian Women's League. However, it seems strange that at the time of Torvald's promotion she finally left. But the kids - they certainly will suffer from this entire ordeal. Ibsen uses not use as only Nora and Torvald, but every single character big or small to ask a question on human freedom. At the end when she leaves it seems that she is only thinking of herself because she just gets up and leaves. However, Marcus is being harsh and lets his wife know he will be the one in charge and no buts should be heard. Ulrike did indeed have some compassion toward his wife, he at least loved her, regardless of how rash he acted towards her in a moment of animosity. He also says that they way she is acting is not right and that if she acts "correctly" that people will envy her. Both men are sexist and look to their wives as their possessions with no mind of their own. Their happiness seems to be completely parallel to their economic status or at least their comfort (or lack thereof) with their economic status. Krogstad needed to keep his job to support himself and keep the only good thing about his reputation. 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